The Secret Place is Face to Face

Pantheism is a belief that Got is a force instead of a distinct personality. A force might have static principles, laws, and values, but God has a voice; He speaks in dynamic conversations. His mercies and manna are new every day. Religion is the bastion of substituting rules, feelings, vibes, hunches, and promptings for conversations. It’s the spirit of religion that says, “I can hear from God… but you can’t.”

Sons, even sheep, hear and heed His voice. The Greek word for voice is phone! The essence of knowing God is having conversations with Him. It’s always been that way. Jesus redeemed our access to God and to conversations with a personal Father. Believing that he can’t or doesn’t talk to me is pantheism not Christianity. Father God is not a force; He is a lover, and you can know Him by talking to Him.

  • Jn 10:27My sheep listen to My voice (G5346 Phone), and I know them, and they follow Me.
  • Gen 32:30So Jacob called the place Peniel saying it is because I saw God face to face.
  • Ex 33:11The Lord would speak to Moses face to face as one speaks to a friend (Jn 15:15).
  • Jn 5:27You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form. (Jesus to pharisees)
  • 1 Cor 3:11When I was a child, I spoke as a child. I understood as a child. I thought as a child. but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
                  12 – For now (as a child) we see through a glass darkly, but then (as a man) face to face. Now I know in part: But then shall I know even as also I am known.

The Secret Place is Face to Face – The Bible is full of references to the secret place (almost 50 on in the cutting room floor at the end). Jesus often retreated to a secret place, went up to a mountain, a desolate place, etc. The secret of the secret place is that it’s meeting God face to face and having conversations. Mountains and Mt Zion are referring to Heaven’s Courts and Council. Words and promptings from the Holy Spirit as we go through our day are real, but conversations happen in the Council when we ascend and take our seat in heaven.

The Topic is Father’s Heart – Traditional prayer for me was rattling off my list of wants and needs and once that was over, prayer had run out of gas in about 5 minutes. The Council is much more focused on Father’s heart, more specifically the purpose in His heart. The role of sons is to have the conversations around that purpose and bring it to earth. Conversations are with Father, Jesus, and each of the 7 Spirits. Now prayer is about an hour because there are nine of those 5-minute conversations that bring out different facets of Father’s heart. Sons bring back a clear purpose. The result is a reformation of people, business, communities, and Nations. Father has invited us to bring heaven to earth. Reformation becomes possible because sons hear and see our Father clearly instead of through a glass darkly. The Seven Spirit Cue Cards are a roadmap to the seven Spirits of God that will help you make the Council practical.

  • We do what Father is doing (Jn 5:19)
  • We say what Father is saying (Jn 12:50)

Discipleship is helping people with hearing what Father is saying and doing what Father is doing.

  • By sharing it with them (so they can taste and see, feel the truth of it).
  • By showing them how to hear for themselves (Experience hearing and seeing in a safe space with a mentor)

Kingdom Culture – Sonship and conversations create a kingdom culture around shared purpose. People find out what Father is doing and do it with Him. Businesses have a Kingdom purpose from Father’s heart that is clearly known and shared, so people get excited about it. Shared purpose is the definition of Ecclesia. Work becomes fun; Work becomes worship. We talked more on this topic on a 30 minute Zoom (Many more insights)


We talk more in the next blog about How to build a Kingdom culture in a business. But for now, let’s introduce a simple concept. Face time with Father changes our hearts in way that facilitates face time with people. Want to Build a Kingdom Culture in a business. The price tag is:

  • Your face time with Father to be clear on your and the corporate purpose.
  • Face time with people Sharing your purpose and hearing theirs.


We start by helping businesspeople clarify their Kingdom Purpose; as in get it prophetically correct and on paper. We use that month of getting purpose on paper with weekly zooms to get to know one another and to see if additional coaching will help your business take the next step. It’s thrilling for your heart and your business when you can feel the chosen-ness that goes with Kingdom purpose. Others will resonate and join your and Father’s cause.

John Garfield (Book a Zoom Call with John)

PS: this blog came from two of Council Sessions. These are transcriptions of the notes I take during the conversations.
🔥   Council The Secret Place is Face to Face
🔥   Council – Father is a Friend not a Force


Cutting Room Floor – The Secret Place

Note: Many more verses on “Mountain” as the secret place at this link –

Matt 6:6 – But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. NKJV

Mark 1:35 – Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed. NIV

Luke 4:42 – At daybreak Jesus went out to a solitary place. NIV

Luke 9:18 – Once when Jesus was praying in private and his disciples were with him, he asked them, “Who do the crowds say I am?” NIV

Luke 5:16 – But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed. NIV

Matt 14:22 – After he had dismissed them, he went up on a mountainside by himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone.  NIV

Matt 5:1 – Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. NIV

Luke 6:12 – One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God. NIV

Luke 9:28 – About eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray. NIV

John 6:3-4 – Then Jesus went up on a mountainside and sat down with his disciples.  NIV

Matt 26:36 – Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to them, “Sit here while I go over there and pray.” NIV

Luke 12:3 – What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.  NIV

Ps 27:5 – For in the time of trouble He shall hide me in His pavilion; In the secret place of His tabernacle, He shall hide me; He shall set me high upon a rock.  NKJV

Ps 31:20 – You shall hide them in the secret place of Your presence. From the plots of man; You shall keep them secretly in a pavilion From the strife of tongues.  NKJV

Isa 45:3 – I will give you the treasures of darkness, riches stored in secret places, so that you may know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel, who summons you by name.  NIV

Ps 51:6 – Behold, You desire truth in the innermost being, And in the hidden part You will make me know wisdom. NASU

Ps 139:15 – My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. NIV

Jer 23:22 – But if they had stood in My counsel, And had caused My people to hear My words, Then they would have turned them from their evil way And from the evil of their doings.  NKJV

Ps 91:1 – He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. NKJV

Ps 119:114 – You are my hiding place and my shield; I wait for Your word.  NASU

Ps 81:7 – You called in trouble, and I delivered you; I answered you in the secret place of thunder; NKJV

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